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		<title>By: Karen L</title>
		<link>http://austenblog.com/2007/04/01/p07-whats-the-verdict/#comment-28438</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 17:02:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a waste of a fine cast.  I had such high hopes, having seen prior work of so many of the actors.  I have no clue what parts most of them were playing -- and clearly they didn&#039;t either.  Only Anthony Head got it right.  I nearly screamed when Anne and Benwick talked of constancy in men and women at Lyme.  Wentworth is supposed to hear this conversation -- and yet he appears to have written his letter to Anne even before he comes to ask her about the Kellynch lease (do we really have to have BOTH endings?).

I watched it again just to make sure I&#039;d given it a fair chance.  Pity me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a waste of a fine cast.  I had such high hopes, having seen prior work of so many of the actors.  I have no clue what parts most of them were playing &#8212; and clearly they didn&#8217;t either.  Only Anthony Head got it right.  I nearly screamed when Anne and Benwick talked of constancy in men and women at Lyme.  Wentworth is supposed to hear this conversation &#8212; and yet he appears to have written his letter to Anne even before he comes to ask her about the Kellynch lease (do we really have to have BOTH endings?).</p>
<p>I watched it again just to make sure I&#8217;d given it a fair chance.  Pity me.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosie</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 16:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry if someone has already mentioned this, but I could not help but notice the amount of historical inaccuracies within the production. Light switches, radiators, modern grates, floodlights, a Captain Wentworth with his ear pierced, Anne telling Wentworth there was a concert on at the Pump rooms which turned out to be Assembly Rooms, floodlights in the background whilst Anne was running!!!…could not they see this!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry if someone has already mentioned this, but I could not help but notice the amount of historical inaccuracies within the production. Light switches, radiators, modern grates, floodlights, a Captain Wentworth with his ear pierced, Anne telling Wentworth there was a concert on at the Pump rooms which turned out to be Assembly Rooms, floodlights in the background whilst Anne was running!!!…could not they see this!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony A</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 20:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Forget the adaptations. Just read the book. It will put everything in its proper place, I promise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget the adaptations. Just read the book. It will put everything in its proper place, I promise.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 18:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mags,
      In the Hinds/Root version you only see a gig being rowed to a ship.You have no idea where they are.No port,bay or land of any kind is seen.
             I cannot believe I missed that in the book!Too bad young Mr.Elliot did not marry Elizabeth!Yet his choice of Anne,was correct in that she is the best of the Elliots!
           And of Mrs.Clay,I dont think &quot;Sir Walter&quot;was interested in her other than as a companion for his eldest daughter.
           Who would want to marry a fellow like Corin Redgraves character!
              I love his reaction and expression when Anne tells him off about going to see Mrs Smith!(instead the Dowager Dalrimple.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mags,<br />
      In the Hinds/Root version you only see a gig being rowed to a ship.You have no idea where they are.No port,bay or land of any kind is seen.<br />
             I cannot believe I missed that in the book!Too bad young Mr.Elliot did not marry Elizabeth!Yet his choice of Anne,was correct in that she is the best of the Elliots!<br />
           And of Mrs.Clay,I dont think &#8220;Sir Walter&#8221;was interested in her other than as a companion for his eldest daughter.<br />
           Who would want to marry a fellow like Corin Redgraves character!<br />
              I love his reaction and expression when Anne tells him off about going to see Mrs Smith!(instead the Dowager Dalrimple&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 11:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a weak production. I wouldnt have enjoyed it if it hasnt been for Tobias Menzies who was wonderful as William Elliot. His first appearance was definitely the best scene of the movie. Mysterious and sexy.

I hated the way his character was explained away at the end. He was charming, elegant and full of charisma throughout the production and suddenly a character rushes up to Anne and calls him rotten. Ann believes her immediately without question! and then rushes about like an idiot trying to find the bland and boring Wentworth. Penry Jones had absolutely no screen presence.

Anne&#039;s character never developed. It was impossible to like her and the actresses mouth gaped open like a guppy fish the whole time.  Harry Hill&#039;s humerous swipe at the final kiss was well deserved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a weak production. I wouldnt have enjoyed it if it hasnt been for Tobias Menzies who was wonderful as William Elliot. His first appearance was definitely the best scene of the movie. Mysterious and sexy.</p>
<p>I hated the way his character was explained away at the end. He was charming, elegant and full of charisma throughout the production and suddenly a character rushes up to Anne and calls him rotten. Ann believes her immediately without question! and then rushes about like an idiot trying to find the bland and boring Wentworth. Penry Jones had absolutely no screen presence.</p>
<p>Anne&#8217;s character never developed. It was impossible to like her and the actresses mouth gaped open like a guppy fish the whole time.  Harry Hill&#8217;s humerous swipe at the final kiss was well deserved.</p>
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		<title>By: Mags</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 00:22:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi James,

There is no conspiracy; Mr. Elliot hears the gossip about Mrs. Clay living in the Elliot household and everyone&#039;s assumption that she will try to marry Sir Walter, and he wants to keep that from happening. She was still young, and if she married Sir Walter and bore him a son, Mr. Elliot would not inherit Kellynch. From the novel:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The news of his cousins Anne&#039;s engagement burst on Mr. Elliot most unexpectedly. It deranged his best plan of domestic happiness, his best hope of keeping Sir Walter single by the watchfulness which a son-in-law&#039;s rights would have given. But, though discomfited and disappointed, he could still do something for his own interest and his own enjoyment. He soon quitted Bath; and on Mrs. Clay&#039;s quitting it soon afterwards, and being next heard of as established under his protection in London, it was evident how double a game he had been playing, and how determined he was to save himself from being cut out by one artful woman, at least.

Mrs. Clay&#039;s affections had overpowered her interest, and she had sacrificed, for the young man&#039;s sake, the possibility of scheming longer for Sir Walter. She has abilities, however, as well as affections; and it is now a doubtful point whether his cunning, or hers, may finally carry the day; whether, after preventing her from being the wife of Sir Walter, he may not be wheedled and caressed at last into making her the wife of Sir William.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

He really did like Anne and wanted to marry her; the keeping-an-eye-on-Sir-Walter bit was gravy. Here&#039;s another bit, from Mrs Smith&#039;s reveal of Mr. Elliot&#039;s perfidy:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Mrs. Wallis has an amusing idea, as nurse tells me, that it is to be put into the marriage articles when you and Mr. Elliot marry, that your father is not to marry Mrs. Clay. A scheme, worthy of Mrs. Wallis&#039;s understanding, by all accounts; but my sensible nurse Rooke sees the absurdity of it. &#039;Why, to be sure, ma&#039;am,&#039; said she, &#039;it would not prevent his marrying anybody else.&#039;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

P.S. I always thought the Admiral was being rowed out to his flagship after hearing from, say, the port admiral that the war is over...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi James,</p>
<p>There is no conspiracy; Mr. Elliot hears the gossip about Mrs. Clay living in the Elliot household and everyone&#8217;s assumption that she will try to marry Sir Walter, and he wants to keep that from happening. She was still young, and if she married Sir Walter and bore him a son, Mr. Elliot would not inherit Kellynch. From the novel:</p>
<blockquote><p>The news of his cousins Anne&#8217;s engagement burst on Mr. Elliot most unexpectedly. It deranged his best plan of domestic happiness, his best hope of keeping Sir Walter single by the watchfulness which a son-in-law&#8217;s rights would have given. But, though discomfited and disappointed, he could still do something for his own interest and his own enjoyment. He soon quitted Bath; and on Mrs. Clay&#8217;s quitting it soon afterwards, and being next heard of as established under his protection in London, it was evident how double a game he had been playing, and how determined he was to save himself from being cut out by one artful woman, at least.</p>
<p>Mrs. Clay&#8217;s affections had overpowered her interest, and she had sacrificed, for the young man&#8217;s sake, the possibility of scheming longer for Sir Walter. She has abilities, however, as well as affections; and it is now a doubtful point whether his cunning, or hers, may finally carry the day; whether, after preventing her from being the wife of Sir Walter, he may not be wheedled and caressed at last into making her the wife of Sir William.</p></blockquote>
<p>He really did like Anne and wanted to marry her; the keeping-an-eye-on-Sir-Walter bit was gravy. Here&#8217;s another bit, from Mrs Smith&#8217;s reveal of Mr. Elliot&#8217;s perfidy:</p>
<blockquote><p>Mrs. Wallis has an amusing idea, as nurse tells me, that it is to be put into the marriage articles when you and Mr. Elliot marry, that your father is not to marry Mrs. Clay. A scheme, worthy of Mrs. Wallis&#8217;s understanding, by all accounts; but my sensible nurse Rooke sees the absurdity of it. &#8216;Why, to be sure, ma&#8217;am,&#8217; said she, &#8216;it would not prevent his marrying anybody else.&#8217;</p></blockquote>
<p>P.S. I always thought the Admiral was being rowed out to his flagship after hearing from, say, the port admiral that the war is over&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have not seen the ITV version.From what I have read here I do not want to either.
                 I really liked the Hinds/Root version,even if they had almost all of the Navy things WRONG!
         1. An Adrimals boat crew would never be so shabby!Never!
         2. The piping aboard of the Adrimal was wrong.and,The Captains of his Fleet would be going to his Ship!
         3.The scene in his cabin was wrong as far as the seating of the Officers.
         4.No Frigate carried 74 guns,nor was a frigate a second class!
         5.Frigates were either 4th or fifth rate.Maximun number of guns was about 54 like as was on the U.S.Navy Constitution class Heavy Frigates,which could blow any two or three Royal Navy frigates out of the water-with experienced crews.
          How can anyone top John Woodvine and Fiona Shaw as George and Sophie Croft? They have to be the best married couple that Jane Austen ever wrote about!
                     James]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have not seen the ITV version.From what I have read here I do not want to either.<br />
                 I really liked the Hinds/Root version,even if they had almost all of the Navy things WRONG!<br />
         1. An Adrimals boat crew would never be so shabby!Never!<br />
         2. The piping aboard of the Adrimal was wrong.and,The Captains of his Fleet would be going to his Ship!<br />
         3.The scene in his cabin was wrong as far as the seating of the Officers.<br />
         4.No Frigate carried 74 guns,nor was a frigate a second class!<br />
         5.Frigates were either 4th or fifth rate.Maximun number of guns was about 54 like as was on the U.S.Navy Constitution class Heavy Frigates,which could blow any two or three Royal Navy frigates out of the water-with experienced crews.<br />
          How can anyone top John Woodvine and Fiona Shaw as George and Sophie Croft? They have to be the best married couple that Jane Austen ever wrote about!<br />
                     James</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 22:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK,Young Mr.Elliot does Mr.and mrs.Smith wrong,but how is it he is connected to mrs Clay? Is there some king of conspiracy with Mrs Clay&#039;s father,Mr.Shepherd who is Sir Walters lawyer?
                   james]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK,Young Mr.Elliot does Mr.and mrs.Smith wrong,but how is it he is connected to mrs Clay? Is there some king of conspiracy with Mrs Clay&#8217;s father,Mr.Shepherd who is Sir Walters lawyer?<br />
                   james</p>
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		<title>By: Julie P.</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;If Davies had done this production it probably would have been much better&lt;/i&gt;

I beg to differ.  Persuasion is romantic and sexy on its own.  It doesn&#039;t need the Dirty Old Man&#039;s &quot;special touch.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If Davies had done this production it probably would have been much better</i></p>
<p>I beg to differ.  Persuasion is romantic and sexy on its own.  It doesn&#8217;t need the Dirty Old Man&#8217;s &#8220;special touch.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tony A</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Julie P., no, Mrs Smith is never referred to as &lt;i&gt;Harriet&lt;/i&gt; in the book. I was taken aback upon hearing “Harriet,” and was compelled to review the book. In spite of the friendship between her and Anne, the latter only addressed her as “Mrs Smith.” And Mrs Smith, née Miss Hamilton, remained sans a first name throughout the book.

And I wholeheartedly agree with you regarding Charles Musgrove, especially in the last scene. A superlative twit.

I do not even want to think on the Letter, or the (absence of the) “debate” between Anne and Harville before it. It’s like… never mind. I feel my blood pressure rising again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Julie P., no, Mrs Smith is never referred to as <i>Harriet</i> in the book. I was taken aback upon hearing “Harriet,” and was compelled to review the book. In spite of the friendship between her and Anne, the latter only addressed her as “Mrs Smith.” And Mrs Smith, née Miss Hamilton, remained sans a first name throughout the book.</p>
<p>And I wholeheartedly agree with you regarding Charles Musgrove, especially in the last scene. A superlative twit.</p>
<p>I do not even want to think on the Letter, or the (absence of the) “debate” between Anne and Harville before it. It’s like… never mind. I feel my blood pressure rising again.</p>
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