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		<title>By: Mollie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mollie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Sep 2007 02:36:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi all,

Saw Becoming Jane a couple of weeks ago and quite enjoyed it.  I found some very interesting articles about Jane and Tom on the web, but can&#039;t seem to get back to at least one of them!

Anyway, what I hope you folks can help with is: in some biography of Jane, I read that there was a sequel to &quot;Pride and Prejudice&quot; that was supposedly based on some ideas she told her family.  Of course I didn&#039;t write this down... help, anyone?

Thanks!

&lt;em&gt;ETA from the Editrix -- &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.austenblog.com/archives/2007/09/11/open-thread-discussion-for-becoming-jane/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;discussion continued here&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/em&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>Saw Becoming Jane a couple of weeks ago and quite enjoyed it.  I found some very interesting articles about Jane and Tom on the web, but can&#8217;t seem to get back to at least one of them!</p>
<p>Anyway, what I hope you folks can help with is: in some biography of Jane, I read that there was a sequel to &#8220;Pride and Prejudice&#8221; that was supposedly based on some ideas she told her family.  Of course I didn&#8217;t write this down&#8230; help, anyone?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p><em>ETA from the Editrix &#8212; <a href="http://www.austenblog.com/archives/2007/09/11/open-thread-discussion-for-becoming-jane/" rel="nofollow">discussion continued here</a>.</em></p>
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		<title>By: Miss G.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miss G.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 19:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gown site:  http://snipurl.com/1q4zk

Also, the silk industry in France was virtually defunct from 1792-1802, so anyone wanting (heavier) luxury fabric had to recut pre-Revolutionary garments when the old stock ran out.  Tangential but cool: Vivienne Westwood&#039;s merveilleuse revival collection.  I can&#039;t find a link, but if you can find the book (&quot;Vivienne Westwood&quot;) in the library, take a look.  She studied period garments in museums to get the right cut.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gown site:  <a href="http://snipurl.com/1q4zk" rel="nofollow">http://snipurl.com/1q4zk</a></p>
<p>Also, the silk industry in France was virtually defunct from 1792-1802, so anyone wanting (heavier) luxury fabric had to recut pre-Revolutionary garments when the old stock ran out.  Tangential but cool: Vivienne Westwood&#8217;s merveilleuse revival collection.  I can&#8217;t find a link, but if you can find the book (&#8220;Vivienne Westwood&#8221;) in the library, take a look.  She studied period garments in museums to get the right cut.</p>
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		<title>By: Karenlee</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karenlee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 09:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oooh, could we have the website link too?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh, could we have the website link too?</p>
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		<title>By: Mags</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you; lovely site! But I doubt the film producers were thinking that deeply about the costumes as to whether Eliza&#039;s post-partum status would affect it, considering they sunk poor Hastings for a pug dog anyway. :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you; lovely site! But I doubt the film producers were thinking that deeply about the costumes as to whether Eliza&#8217;s post-partum status would affect it, considering they sunk poor Hastings for a pug dog anyway. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Miss G.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miss G.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 19:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: ballgowns

I concede the point about Jane; my collection of period fashion plates is French, and as we know that Channel crossing can be a little slow.  Post-1804, French gowns are much fuller in the skirts, by imperial edict to sell more fabric.  Under &quot;website&quot; I have pasted in a link to 1797 and 1799 gowns.  Regarding Eliza, as an older, post-partum woman she may have preferred a more structured look.  The merveilleuse thing is even harder to bring off than the chemise.  As a child in the early 60&#039;s I noticed the same phenomenon keeping my older aunts in 50&#039;s corsetry and out of those little dresses my mother wore.  I agree with you about the studio&#039;s attitude, which is one reason why historical films always look so dated later on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: ballgowns</p>
<p>I concede the point about Jane; my collection of period fashion plates is French, and as we know that Channel crossing can be a little slow.  Post-1804, French gowns are much fuller in the skirts, by imperial edict to sell more fabric.  Under &#8220;website&#8221; I have pasted in a link to 1797 and 1799 gowns.  Regarding Eliza, as an older, post-partum woman she may have preferred a more structured look.  The merveilleuse thing is even harder to bring off than the chemise.  As a child in the early 60&#8242;s I noticed the same phenomenon keeping my older aunts in 50&#8242;s corsetry and out of those little dresses my mother wore.  I agree with you about the studio&#8217;s attitude, which is one reason why historical films always look so dated later on.</p>
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		<title>By: Mags</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 12:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Bonny&#039;s point is that Jane&#039;s ballgown was more of a style from 1810 or so.

And I wonder if Eliza&#039;s political leanings were so strong as to prevent her from being in the latest fashion! Which in England, at that time, was more the chemise-dress-with-a-sash look, higher waists and the pouter-pigeon bodice and big floofy gathered skirts. But of course the studio would have nixed them because they would make the girls look &quot;fat.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Bonny&#8217;s point is that Jane&#8217;s ballgown was more of a style from 1810 or so.</p>
<p>And I wonder if Eliza&#8217;s political leanings were so strong as to prevent her from being in the latest fashion! Which in England, at that time, was more the chemise-dress-with-a-sash look, higher waists and the pouter-pigeon bodice and big floofy gathered skirts. But of course the studio would have nixed them because they would make the girls look &#8220;fat.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Miss G.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miss G.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 18:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Re: costuming
I respectfully beg to differ.  In the country, most people would have been a little behind, as today people from say, Buffalo are a little behind those in NYC.  Most of what we know about fashion and history in general tends to be about the lives off the well-off and/or urban.

I expected Judge Langlois and Mme. la Comtesse to be out of fashion, the former because of his conservatism, and the latter from political opposition to the Directoire.   Mrs. Radcliffe was quite well dressed.  I also appreciated that few seemed to have the endless wardrobes of more spectacular productions; sadly, in real life only someone like Eliza de Feuillide could have afforded it.  When I write my novel, I&#039;ll multiply my father&#039;s income by five and give myself a larger nose and a better wardrobe, too (smile).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: costuming<br />
I respectfully beg to differ.  In the country, most people would have been a little behind, as today people from say, Buffalo are a little behind those in NYC.  Most of what we know about fashion and history in general tends to be about the lives off the well-off and/or urban.</p>
<p>I expected Judge Langlois and Mme. la Comtesse to be out of fashion, the former because of his conservatism, and the latter from political opposition to the Directoire.   Mrs. Radcliffe was quite well dressed.  I also appreciated that few seemed to have the endless wardrobes of more spectacular productions; sadly, in real life only someone like Eliza de Feuillide could have afforded it.  When I write my novel, I&#8217;ll multiply my father&#8217;s income by five and give myself a larger nose and a better wardrobe, too (smile).</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 18:12:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Franka;
           Thank You!
                    James]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Franka;<br />
           Thank You!<br />
                    James</p>
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		<title>By: Bonny Wise</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bonny Wise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 21:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On Becoming Jane.  I too was disappointed in many ways.  I felt the costuming was awful.   Why was Jane the only person wearing Regency clothes?  This should have been December, 1795 to January, 1796 when she met LeFroy.  Everyone else wore clothes from the 1790&#039;s.

I knew going in most of this was made-up, but being used to the quality production of BBC&#039;s Pride &amp; Prejudice and Emma Thompson&#039;s Sense &amp; Sensibility, it just fell short.

It was slightly more than entertaining and in fact received only a 2 1/2 star rating-about right.  Probably not a movie I will buy and watch over and again.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Becoming Jane.  I too was disappointed in many ways.  I felt the costuming was awful.   Why was Jane the only person wearing Regency clothes?  This should have been December, 1795 to January, 1796 when she met LeFroy.  Everyone else wore clothes from the 1790&#8242;s.</p>
<p>I knew going in most of this was made-up, but being used to the quality production of BBC&#8217;s Pride &amp; Prejudice and Emma Thompson&#8217;s Sense &amp; Sensibility, it just fell short.</p>
<p>It was slightly more than entertaining and in fact received only a 2 1/2 star rating-about right.  Probably not a movie I will buy and watch over and again.</p>
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		<title>By: Franka</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Franka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 10:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To answer your question, James: as a period drama the movie was ok, a bit average, nothing too special, slightly enjoyable. As a movie about Jane Austen, it was absolutely awful, in my opinion. Besides the fact that it was of course a Made Up Story, it just wasn&#039;t &#039;Jane Austen&#039;, if you know what I mean, as if it had nothing to do with her.

In fact, the movie was exactly what I expected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To answer your question, James: as a period drama the movie was ok, a bit average, nothing too special, slightly enjoyable. As a movie about Jane Austen, it was absolutely awful, in my opinion. Besides the fact that it was of course a Made Up Story, it just wasn&#8217;t &#8216;Jane Austen&#8217;, if you know what I mean, as if it had nothing to do with her.</p>
<p>In fact, the movie was exactly what I expected.</p>
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