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	<title>Comments on: REVIEW: The Three Weissmanns of Westport by Cathleen Schine</title>
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		<title>By: Mags</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 15:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Mr Knightley – had he found himself in such a situation – would have done no less.&lt;/i&gt;

And Captain Wentworth was prepared to marry Louisa Musgrove once he realized he had raised her and her family&#039;s expectations. And Henry Tilney felt he had raised Catherine Morland&#039;s expectations sufficiently that honor would only be satisfied with him proposing to her (though he wanted to, anyway).

Duty Before Self explains a LOT in Jane Austen&#039;s novels. It was important in her time, not only to her but to everyone. The characters really took duty to heart, especially duty to one&#039;s parents and family.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Mr Knightley – had he found himself in such a situation – would have done no less.</i></p>
<p>And Captain Wentworth was prepared to marry Louisa Musgrove once he realized he had raised her and her family&#8217;s expectations. And Henry Tilney felt he had raised Catherine Morland&#8217;s expectations sufficiently that honor would only be satisfied with him proposing to her (though he wanted to, anyway).</p>
<p>Duty Before Self explains a LOT in Jane Austen&#8217;s novels. It was important in her time, not only to her but to everyone. The characters really took duty to heart, especially duty to one&#8217;s parents and family.</p>
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		<title>By: Mari A.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mari A.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 11:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t read this book, and don&#039;t think I&#039;m interested enough to try it, but I completely agree with your assessment of Edward Ferrars. I am often annoyed when people call him weak or a git, because that he is not. Yes, he made a mistake and hooked up with a total idiot when he was a teenager, but who has not done that? And Lucy probably manipulated him as best she could. Edward, however, faces his mistake with honour and integrity, and that&#039;s what I find admirable. Mr Knightley - had he found himself in such a situation - would have done no less. Sorry, will step down from the soap-box now.

Plus, and I think I may be alone in the fandom, but I don&#039;t think Col Brandon and Elinor would have suited at all. They are great as friends, and might have lived a very comfortable marriage of convenience, but I cannot see them as becoming lovers. Just my two cents ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read this book, and don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m interested enough to try it, but I completely agree with your assessment of Edward Ferrars. I am often annoyed when people call him weak or a git, because that he is not. Yes, he made a mistake and hooked up with a total idiot when he was a teenager, but who has not done that? And Lucy probably manipulated him as best she could. Edward, however, faces his mistake with honour and integrity, and that&#8217;s what I find admirable. Mr Knightley &#8211; had he found himself in such a situation &#8211; would have done no less. Sorry, will step down from the soap-box now.</p>
<p>Plus, and I think I may be alone in the fandom, but I don&#8217;t think Col Brandon and Elinor would have suited at all. They are great as friends, and might have lived a very comfortable marriage of convenience, but I cannot see them as becoming lovers. Just my two cents <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kirsten</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kirsten]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read it, and I completely agree with you about everything.  The flashes to the original characters and settings were well-done throughout.  However, I didn&#039;t much *like* these characters from a modern perspective - what is charming in a 16-year-old Marianne becomes less so in a grown, mature woman.  And I thought the redone ending was *dreadful*.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read it, and I completely agree with you about everything.  The flashes to the original characters and settings were well-done throughout.  However, I didn&#8217;t much *like* these characters from a modern perspective &#8211; what is charming in a 16-year-old Marianne becomes less so in a grown, mature woman.  And I thought the redone ending was *dreadful*.</p>
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		<title>By: Maria L</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maria L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was on the fence about reading this and after Mags&#039; review, there I firmly remain. 

I&#039;m with Sandra, if I can borrow it, maybe. But I&#039;ll save my money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was on the fence about reading this and after Mags&#8217; review, there I firmly remain. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m with Sandra, if I can borrow it, maybe. But I&#8217;ll save my money.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurel Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laurel Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 03:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, and from your unlove of this book it appears to be lacking in natural beauty too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and from your unlove of this book it appears to be lacking in natural beauty too.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sandra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 23:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aw, Jenny, the librarian is *never* responsible for the patron not liking a suggested read.  Even the reader&#039;s advisory lists say &quot;If you liked X, you *may* enjoy Y.&quot;  A librarian myself and a former CT resident, the first couple of paragraphs of this entry intrigued me.  However, if Mags was dissatisfied with it, I&#039;m not laying out the cash.  I always end up cravenly agreeing with her. ;)  I will borrow it from my local PL, of course.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aw, Jenny, the librarian is *never* responsible for the patron not liking a suggested read.  Even the reader&#8217;s advisory lists say &#8220;If you liked X, you *may* enjoy Y.&#8221;  A librarian myself and a former CT resident, the first couple of paragraphs of this entry intrigued me.  However, if Mags was dissatisfied with it, I&#8217;m not laying out the cash.  I always end up cravenly agreeing with her. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />   I will borrow it from my local PL, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a librarian and JASNA member I was excited by the description of this book...b/c of the S &amp; S retelling and the fact that the Elinor character was a library director. I liked how this showed that S &amp; S is a timeless story. But I, too, had a problem with the ending. You can&#039;t change the couples around. Also since the characters are older in this book I&#039;d like to promote it to older library patrons but I hesitate to do so b/c of part of the ending. Older library patrons aren&#039;t quite as &quot;21st century&quot; as something that happens in the end. I did actually mention it at a talk to some older ladies (the group is called O.W.L. Stands for Older Wiser Ladies) and almost all of them wrote the title down. I wanted to give a disclaimer &quot;Don&#039;t hold the librarian responsible if you don&#039;t like the book. Read the original novel instead.&quot; Basically the book left me wanting to re-read the original novel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a librarian and JASNA member I was excited by the description of this book&#8230;b/c of the S &amp; S retelling and the fact that the Elinor character was a library director. I liked how this showed that S &amp; S is a timeless story. But I, too, had a problem with the ending. You can&#8217;t change the couples around. Also since the characters are older in this book I&#8217;d like to promote it to older library patrons but I hesitate to do so b/c of part of the ending. Older library patrons aren&#8217;t quite as &#8220;21st century&#8221; as something that happens in the end. I did actually mention it at a talk to some older ladies (the group is called O.W.L. Stands for Older Wiser Ladies) and almost all of them wrote the title down. I wanted to give a disclaimer &#8220;Don&#8217;t hold the librarian responsible if you don&#8217;t like the book. Read the original novel instead.&#8221; Basically the book left me wanting to re-read the original novel.</p>
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		<title>By: Mags</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mags]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 14:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know where the &quot;awkward taste&quot; quote comes from, don&#039;t you? If not, perhaps the group read of P&amp;P will remind you. ;-)

As far as fidelity to the original goes, I don&#039;t mean to be doctrinaire or imply there is some kind of formula. But it seems logical to me that if one is following a story very closely, with every element of the plot and every character completely identifiable with the original, to completely change the ending is not a clever twist (especially since the original had a clever twist already--meaning Elinor finding out the truth about &quot;Mrs. Edward Ferrars&quot;) but a slap in the face of the original author. Now, since you didn&#039;t like the original ending, your mileage may vary. If you didn&#039;t read my spoilery comments, perhaps you should come back afterwards and read them and see what you think. ;-) But the ending put me over the edge from &quot;sorta liked it and thought it was clever but won&#039;t read again and just glad I had a coupon&quot; to really disliking it.

As far as NA goes, one wonders if perhaps a young author paid more attention to a certain film than to the original novel? It is a novel which repays close study, and can change one&#039;s mind about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know where the &#8220;awkward taste&#8221; quote comes from, don&#8217;t you? If not, perhaps the group read of P&amp;P will remind you. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>As far as fidelity to the original goes, I don&#8217;t mean to be doctrinaire or imply there is some kind of formula. But it seems logical to me that if one is following a story very closely, with every element of the plot and every character completely identifiable with the original, to completely change the ending is not a clever twist (especially since the original had a clever twist already&#8211;meaning Elinor finding out the truth about &#8220;Mrs. Edward Ferrars&#8221;) but a slap in the face of the original author. Now, since you didn&#8217;t like the original ending, your mileage may vary. If you didn&#8217;t read my spoilery comments, perhaps you should come back afterwards and read them and see what you think. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  But the ending put me over the edge from &#8220;sorta liked it and thought it was clever but won&#8217;t read again and just glad I had a coupon&#8221; to really disliking it.</p>
<p>As far as NA goes, one wonders if perhaps a young author paid more attention to a certain film than to the original novel? It is a novel which repays close study, and can change one&#8217;s mind about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Laurel Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laurel Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOLOLOL! &quot;modern improvements were unfortunately counteracted by an awkward taste.&quot; Best polite put down I ever encountered. Brava!

So Mags, do you think that if an author is bold enough to retell one of Austen&#039;s novels they should stick to her plot line and characterizations religiously? I am battling this question in my mind as I read another novel that the publisher is calling a retelling of &lt;i&gt;Northanger Abbey&lt;/i&gt; and not finding much Abbey in their Northanger. Maybe they too can use the &quot;modern improvements&quot; alibi? ;-)

I bought &lt;i&gt;Three Weissmann&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; three month&#039;s ago and have not made it past page 55. Other distractions. I thought the concept clever and it peaked my interest enough to lay down cold hard cash like you. Now that you have mentioned that the ending is different than Austen&#039;s (which I have only loved by half) without telling us how, I am compelled to take it up again and finish it. Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOLOLOL! &#8220;modern improvements were unfortunately counteracted by an awkward taste.&#8221; Best polite put down I ever encountered. Brava!</p>
<p>So Mags, do you think that if an author is bold enough to retell one of Austen&#8217;s novels they should stick to her plot line and characterizations religiously? I am battling this question in my mind as I read another novel that the publisher is calling a retelling of <i>Northanger Abbey</i> and not finding much Abbey in their Northanger. Maybe they too can use the &#8220;modern improvements&#8221; alibi? <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I bought <i>Three Weissmann&#8217;s</i> three month&#8217;s ago and have not made it past page 55. Other distractions. I thought the concept clever and it peaked my interest enough to lay down cold hard cash like you. Now that you have mentioned that the ending is different than Austen&#8217;s (which I have only loved by half) without telling us how, I am compelled to take it up again and finish it. Thanks.</p>
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